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I've been using OpenCode V2 since it first appeared on the website, and I can only repeat the positive views on usability, the client/server model and self-awareness/ability to edit it's config and write plugins.
I'd like to mention two other impressive things about OpenCode.
First, their issue tracker on GitHub works really well. They have the OpenCode GitHub App connected, and for any bug report it reads the issue, tests on the mentioned version and latest dev branch, and comments the findings along with a reproduction script. For TUI Bugs it even records a video. And all that in less than two minutes, usually.
https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues?q=is%3Aissue+st...
Another thing they are working on is opentunnel, where you can tunnel services to https on <random>.opentunnel.xyz and its subdomains. What's notable is that the subdomain is persistent and unique to you, and a wildcard ssl cert is actually generated on your machine, so the platform cannot see the traffic. Their primary use case seems to be making the OpenCode Server usable from anywhere, but it can do much more with their cli:
> the client/server model
I see people talking about this being new in v2 everywhere but it's not the case. What's new is that it's the default (and also not really since `opencode service` and `opencode serve` start two different things). But in v1 it was very possible to run one opencode instance and have multiple clients connect to it (like Openchamber and neovim).
issue tracker is awesome, will have to copy that for sure!
The opentunnel feature is probably related to the "official native apps that are in the coming" mentioned in the article
Try pangolin for tunneing , it works so well.
It's good.
Many of the annoyances from V1 are gone. Skills and plugins reload automatically (finally). Tasks can be backgrounded (though I think this doesn't happen automatically yet). There's a built-in skill for editing the configuration (finally I can retire mine). The front-end got some love. Apparently they re-architected the loop around Effect. Sub-sessions can be communicated with better. Configuration is loaded from the folder the session is created in rather than where the server was started.
In general, this update largely takes OpenCode into the current age features-wise and is a good overhaul quality-wise. Just in time to stop my early switching away efforts, which would've been a pain because I know few other harnesses with such a strong server/client model.
To me, there are more annoyances in V2, so many that I've switched harnesses to Pi (for now?). I think the hot-reload is another security misalignment. An agent should not be able to modify plugins and have that immediately reloaded for availability.
Tasks can be backgrounded by the model you are using automatically. It is not just manual fyi
It’s great, they’re embracing even more the “everything’s a plugin” principle that has been pushed by other harnesses like Deepseek. Shoutout to all the AI model companies out there: if your subscription can’t be used on open code, I’ll buy something else.
Many of the workarounds I had to develop for the v1 now come as native features in v2 (i.e. session rebinding to other folders), now the only thing that was missing is the ability of plugins to read the response you’re writing (useful if you want to have the double-Esc feature like in claude code).
Does opencode support anything similar to claude code's auto mode (https://code.claude.com/docs/en/permission-modes#eliminate-p...)?
I'd like to switch to opencode, But "yolo mode" feels risky and manually approving every command the model runs kills the flow
FWIW OC 2.0 remembers perms for a project/directory pretty solidly now, so flow-killing approvals are more a one-time thing for a given project. It's sad they can't be globally set though, so a new project pays the approval-by-tool tax.
I run --yolo but I'm running opencode in a VM: https://github.com/marius/devmicrosandbox
Put the agent in a sandbox.
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Feels like more of the same, although I can't say because this article wasn't very readable so I couldn't bring myself to reading it.
A list of big new features and changes would have been nicer.
I hope they fixed the long delays to opening OpenCode I have been experiencing, and the huge database of old chats I don't care about anymore.
I wonder why all of a sudden these harnesses want to run a permanent daemon on my machine? Like, all of them, and at the same time.
(Obviously, this feature should not exist at all let alone be default.)
A pretty important feature is that the client process can crash without losing progress on my current session, similar to how I can reconnect to my tmux server without losing current active processes.
I agree that it shouldn't be default, but I'm wondering why you think it shouldn't exist _at all_. The daemon mode for emacs, for instance, is incredibly useful for speeding up startup time and persisting things between windows. It's probably very similar here.
If you think about the evolution of AI coding, companies (who will eventually pay for these tools) will realize they want to run the coding tasks in a remote, controlled environment.
Every engineer typing on their machine and burning tokens (money) won't work in an enterprise setting.
It’s not obvious to me why this feature shouldn’t be the default.
I routinely run dozens or hundreds of daemons. Why wouldn’t I want one to keep my network connections to llms open?
There’s two answers, depending on your personal cynicism.
The optimistic version is that the new zeitgeist is deeply recursive agents writing _huge_ swaths of code at once. The human side seems very asynchronous. You do a lot of queueing something that the agents churn on for an hour, so being able to detach/reattach would make sense.
The cynical version is everyone is realizing that nobody will pay for a harness, so they’re pivoting to a client-server model to try to PaaS-ify them. If they haven’t announced it already, they’ll have an OpenCode Cloud within the next quarter or two.
We’ll see how that goes. I’m not holding my breath that these will thrive as long as infrastructure teams exist. Agents are too simple from an infra perspective, and we’re seeing frameworks to make them stateless pop up already.
idk about permanent but my own custom harness runs as a daemon, which lets me close my terminal without it killing long running sessions.
Because it’s better and users want it.
Native apps connecting to the OpenCode server is a great way to run sessions on remote hosts!
I wish Claude Code would adopt the same model. The desktop app deploys a separate engine that restarts and clobbers long-running sessions upon reconnect (Remote Control is their recommended solution but requires a Claude.ai account).
I’ve been vibe coding a native macOS Claude Code app that spawns a server that wraps Claude Code on remote hosts, but the UX and features are always lagging behind.
I am quite keen on this as well, I have been trying to move all my active development to happen inside a container, including the harnesses. This, of course, makes it very hard to run GUI harnesses. I prefer CLI, but it would be neat to be able to better isolate gui-based harnesses as well.
I have been using VSCodium with https://github.com/jeanp413/open-remote-ssh so (most of) the IDE also runs inside the container. I have been trying to get everything inside the container, including the projects I work on, the IDE, the harness, the dependencies, etc. Both for security and for portability so I can have the same setup in both my work and home computers.
One thing I haven't been able to do is limit the blast radius of is git, github ssh keys give blanket access to all repos tied to my profile and ATM I set up the github SSH key inside the container.
Claude code agents have a protocol that's usable for the same purpose it just listen locally but it's usable i have my own claw-like that has options for claude, codex, and pi (my subscription, wife subscription, and i got a yearly sub on glm when it was cheap)
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I was experimenting with Paseo for this.
The Opencode desktop app could already connect to a remote web session; does it now talk to the server directly?
Claude Code already has a server mode. The difference is that it connects through Anthropic rather than via a local socket.
I've developed something similar for personal use. A harness who's only job is to delegate to other harnesses (i.e: AntiGravity, Codex, Claude Code, Hermes) to create an opencode-web-like interface across multiple hosts.
For Claude Code, don't use remote-connections. Your best option is to look at how the closed-source VSCode plugin interfaces with Claude Code. The way it works is that it reads files directly. This API, although unofficial, is likely very stable, because an old VSCode extension still has to interact with new version of Claude Code.
If there's any interest in this sort of thing, maybe I'll open-source it. I would have to cleanup the slop though.
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Their installer (curl | sh) was taking so long yesterday for me.
It turns out it's incredibly slow... because of the progress bar rendering. This is insane. The installer took 6 minutes to reach 10%:
curl -fsSL https://opencode.ai/v2/install | bash
Managed to fix it by running this instead:
curl -fsSL https://opencode.ai/v2/install | bash 2>&1 | cat
Isn't that an issue with your terminal? Why is stdout so slow?
Sounds like I'm not upgrading then. My current OpenCode works perfectly and too many life experiences with "don't fix something that ain't broke" ;)
My laptop fan went nuts on their homepage.
If you have Nix, you can run it using:
nix run github:juspay/agent-distro
I suspect heavy eyes free coding. I spent the last week helping them understand a major security regression in config loading, took two issues/pull requests. Our hunch is the Ai told them what they had was good, not enough human critical thinking.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50075319
I've switched to Pi because I do not like the direction v2 has taken UX. Nor do I trust the security posturing going forward. There is also the social media stunts of the CEO that push me away.
I'm now trying to advocate Pi adopt system level configuration for similar security reasons. If any HNers would like to add their thoughts, please do so here
and they probably haven't stopped hijacking copy paste.
And they created the slowest webpage on the planet Earth. Full throttle slop.
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This is a you problem
time curl -fsSL https://opencode.ai/v2/install | bash
real 0m24.975s user 0m9.537s sys 0m14.904s
Took me a little while to figure out this was a llm harness for coding (also called an agent, I suppose, but that term seems overloaded and ambiguous to me)
There are many of these available, alongside the provider ones.
Are there any benchmarks which help me decide which ones I should try over the standard codex/claude?
Codex and Claude should not be seen as ‘the standard’
They are vendor offerings but you don’t have to take them.
There are a few benchmark, where they run different harness with the same model, e.g. [artficial analysis](https://artificialanalysis.ai/agents/coding-agents) but honestly they are easily game-able.
For example, consider something like SWEBench, where a test should pass. Harness or a skill can just tell the agent keep trying until the test pass. So same model can have a lot of behavior changes between the harnesses.
In my experience (i own a multi-agent IDE with 50+ supported harness) folks stick to first party, usually either openai or anthropic, grok, agy; if they are willing to pay for the subscription the value is unbeatable. And they don't risk trying different harnesses.
The main four seem to be Pi, Opencode, Claude Code, abd Codex.
I do often see benchmarks comparing them and usually Pi comes out on top, but I think the benchmarks are generally testing one moderately sized clear task. Pi is minimal and great in that situation.
For more general usage, where tasks are not clear, you might interrupt at any moment to steer it, etc. benchmarks are harder I guess. I personally love pi because anytime there's something I don't like, I spin up a separate session and fix it.
E.g. I've found the "reply in simple technical English" hack amazing but I have to keep saying it over and over. So I had an agent write an extension in about ten minutes that appends a short hidden message saying all user and dev facing text must be in STE, apply that without talking about STE. Works amazingly well.
You might look at Block's open-sourced Goose (https://goose-docs.ai) and view it as something of a neutral opinion for a harness application.
Here is a benchmark where they actually evaluated harnesses across same models and measured task completion rates: https://frontierharness.org/
I use "harness" for the tool which calls the llm, has the tools, interacts with the computer (filesys, bash, etc), does the session bookeeping
and "agent" as the instance which is running... this is the more overloaded term because there are "agent" definitions, this is where a combinatorial exists, because the running "agent" is a combination of agent definitions, context, tool choice where you can modify each independently to create a new "agent"
I think Scion (Google's) does a decent job defining these concepts: https://googlecloudplatform.github.io/scion/concepts/
Started work with OpenCode and my number one issue is that they do not cleanly document how to configure the settings to only run local ML models.
It is all focused on pushing prompts out to 3rd party providers that uses them for training. Irony is having to use the 3rd party provider to properly configure OpenCode with local only ML. I cannot have private information leak.
Good thing I tested it on open source code base before touching property code bases.
Huh ... is that related to why I see little Gemini hits constantly when selecting e.g. DeepSeek 4.1 flash on openrouter? I'm not going private for a bit (mac studio on the way) but when I do I want to lock it down, but pretty stuck on opencode for the moment. If it's leaky that's a problem.
With websites i went back to 90s styles.
Hyper dense in information. Anything clickable is a link.
A button is for Write actions.
Interactive element are distinct from text.
If webpage page is an interactive canvas , make the canvas the main thing ad text as support.
If you start mixing the two idk..
It's my daily driver - very easy to customize. Added a pretty solid vim plugin for it and a few more really useful plugins. Here are my dotfiles https://github.com/dkarter/dotfiles
it feels like a clear improvement across the board but a heads up: i got bitten by upgrading - since all tool calls now go through the background process, the sandbox that i use to wrap the TUI process quietly became useless. took me a day or two to realize that web fetches, etc. which should have been blocked were succeeding.
Yeah, it is a regression IMO.
You need to run it with —standalone to properly sandbox it.
Those tools should be designed to be sandboxed.
There are at least 3 security regressions (imo) in the initial v2 release
1. configuration loading (now fixed) dropped support for system level, then restored it incorrectly, now it is better, but still some issues in user space
2. hot-reloading of plugins, agents can now change them with immediate effect
3. this, which I was unaware of
I wonder how many more there are given this much has been found already
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Wait, but OpenCode got renamed to Crush and the original dev went on to that new project. Where did this come from? Is this a fork? Who is behind it?
Someone from Opencode went to Crush, but Opencode continued.
EDIT: as a rewrite, owning the name. but not code.
I don't think that's the case. This is from anomalyco, the company who made sst.dev. Crush is from Charm. I think OpenCode may have originally been written in Go but nowadays their codebase is TypeScript.
Edit: I'm missing some context others have pointed out.
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I'm really tired of this being retread time and time and time again.
It's just not interesting, it doesn't seem to matter, they are are separate projects and both doing great. The inside baseball about old history doesn't feel like it goes anywhere, adds anything. It didn't the last 5 times opencode got submitted!
I wish they’d invest more time in performance improvements over code mods. I recently switched to pi which uses an order of magnitude less RAM (hundreds vs dozens) and noticeably less CPU on my machine… OpenCode is really nice but it’s about as heavy as antigravity and is substandard in features…
My notebook took up flight and launched itself through the window and died trying to render this site.
My M3 Pro noticeably stuttered when I opened it :/
When I opened the site, I started hearing a sound that I never heard before: My MacBook Pro M4's fans. I checked ActivityMonitor and Firefox was using a significant CPU share. Are they mining crypto in the background or what's happening?
I love opencode, but not this website. so difficult to use.
I've been using OpenCode 2.0 indirectly via OpenChamber 2.0 and I've been very happy with it.
Once I got past the initial hurdle of having to upgrade my server and clients all at once, everything has been smooth sailing.
OpenChamber ftw! I'm surprised it's not more popular - so much nicer to use than the TUI.
I'm always confused when people at work show me their opencode or Claude code setup of 6 terminal windows open simultaneously with the same illegible walls of text. No idea how people still prefer that over a nice GUI.
I don't see a "performance" section. Should be the first one they mention.
Last time I tried OpenCode was on a tiny VPS which stopped responding when OpenCode tried to eat over 2GB of RAM in launch.
All the power of LLMs in the hands but a page impossible to read on my phone...
Yup, Firefox on Android as well. The page scrolls in frames per MINUTE: scroll, wait 2 seconds, page instantly jumps to future scroll location.
Why? Loads fine on iOS 27 Safari.
yeah absolutely unusable, kinda insane to have access to fronteer models and produce a website that unusable
Interesting and I'll definitely give this a try, the client/server and plugin system do look very powerful.
However, I've been using OMP in combination with Tern (the terminal) lately and it's an incredibly smooth operation. It's hard to find a decent terminal on Windows (corporate device) but this is the best I've found so far.
Gave it a try as well, but the RAM consumption was pretty high. Had to move back to Ghostty.
There are dozens of us, dozens!
I am using v2 since its released I like OpenCode because of its user experience for TUI which imo is best for any coding agents out there but still there are rough edges which have to be resolved currently I am facing clipboard issue in Ubuntu/X11. I have not figured the root cause yet i hope they gt resolved
Anyone know how to turn off code mode?
I just tried the excellent local https://www.liquid.ai/blog/lfm2-5-24b-a2b model, but the model is trained to talk in bash, while OpenCode stubbornly expects JavaScript, and there seems to be no way to make them work together. The model itself performs excellently in pi.
Is there a way to buy tokens with a good model that makes OpenCode near as cheap as Claude Code with a Claude Pro subscription?
For personal projects, Claude Pro seems to give me a lot of tokens to use with Claude Code, and from experiments using other models with Claude Code (e.g. via Vercel) always seems way more expensive.
DeepSeek has very good bang for the buck if you're paying API prices.
There is opencode go [1] that gets you quite far compared to paying API prices. For example for the $10 subscription you get $80 in deepseek 4.1 flash credits.
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Based on this post, it sounds like a ton of great improvements.
I've only used OpenCode a bit, but I found it was sufficient for the workloads I was throwing at it. It wasn't quite enough to beat out Codex or Claude Code as my go-to choice, though. Perhaps I'll give this version a shot and see if they've gotten it over the hump.
out of curiosity, how or what do you use codex/claude code for that beats opencode?
"From the beginning OpenCode adopted a client/server model."
+1 for knowing when to use a slash, not a hyphen.
Okay, my iPhone is not good enough to run their vibecoded promo website
Otherwise called OpenMemoryLeak, it eats memory like a piece of cake.
Moved to pi after killing my computer one too many times. It's like they think memory has never been cheaper.
Found out on 1.x it goes crazy with file watches. If you launch in a top level directory with lots of sub directories, iirc it can create millions of watches X2
Not sure if it's fixed in 2.x. There's some way to get it to not do that with ignore files or rules but not sure exactly how--I had Claude fix it...
Is this related to https://opencode.ai/?
OpenCode is a beast. Does it still try to take a disk snapshot of my working directory, even when it contains hundreds of millions of files? Does it still eat all of my memory? Does it still have a super-gigantic system prompt that wastes a solid percentage of my context window before I've even begun?
I switched to pi some months ago, and I have no complaints. It just does what it says, with no shenanigans. They updated the rendering approach recently so scrollback is nice and smooth now.
I was opencode user, but like few months ago tried pi and never looked back. Pi with open models is absolutely mind-blowing - my agents run with speeds not achievable with any remote frontier model - they certainly not as smart, but it doesn't matter because they do their "work done" perfectly and fast.
All problems I had with opencode are not presented in pi - it looks it's the best approach to guarantee most productive coding environment - speed, simplicity, transparency, absolute customization. I will certainly try this 2.0, maybe they have now improvements.
I am pretty new to it, but I like OpenCode. Except when it decided to build 430GB of snapshot data out of a simple Android application.
I switched to Pi after experiencing OpenCode V2 about a week ago. Dislike the UX direction a lot. I took some effort to sift through the Pi plugin ecosystem to get my setup in a good place.
I will say OpenCode has likely improved significantly from your experience. I never experienced any of that since ~May of this year when I picked up OpenCode the first time.
For me the distinguishing feature of OpenCode is the web ui/desktop app. I’m using OpenCode because it’s the only open-source agent-harness I’ve tried that runs outside of a TUI. I like terminals but not TUIs and especially not for prose-based interactions like prompting.
But that’s a shallow moat, and the rest of the features here are not particularly interesting to me. I don’t have a use for plugins or a model-server proxy (I can connect other tools directly to the model provider).
The OpenCode UI was OK to use for the first few months but then it basically didn't improve at all in the next -insert-too-many-months-.
It's long been surpassed by better UIs like OpenChamber. Looks like I'll be trying Paseo out next.
Have you tried https://github.com/openchamber/openchamber ?
You should try dsh then. It also had a web ui.
Unfortunately many subscriptions require you use their harness. In that case, I highly recommend using Termic (https://github.com/simion/termic/).
It's an incredibly useful GUI that lets you use the provider's harness, but adds extra productivity features. You can use OpenCode, Pi, Claude, Codex, whatever you want. The TUI runs in a window, but you can also pull up terminals, open tabs, keep projects, workspaces, show file diffs, give feedback on lines of code, review PRs, and way, way more. The number of features is impressive.
The devs are very quickly adding features, yet the app remains stable. And they fix bugs super fast! They fixed like three bugs and implemented two feature requests of mine within a week of asking. Best of all the whole thing is FOSS and they're not trying to make money off you. Absolutely awesome maintainers.
hermes also has desktop app.
You sound like someone who might like what I'm doing with Juggler [https://juggler.studio]!
Nice work!
Are there any recommended sandbox patterns to use? Custom linux users or bubblewrap and managing openbao is getting to be a lot to manage each harness by themselves!
I've been using https://nono.sh which uses landlock instead of bubblewrap. I had a look at all the similar alternatives when I started using it and everything else I could find was far too vibe coded for me to trust, especially for this.
Make sure to use the —standalone flag with sandbox invocations of opencode, else you will run the client in a sandbox but not the server.
Microsoft has mxc which I think is neat — not sure if it’s the right level of abstraction for your needs
Unfortunately, opencode v2 still has mandatory remote config loading from your model provider's .well-known/opencode url, which gives your model provider remote code execution on your machine.
"s" in "opencode" stands for security.
You should't really run a coding harness on your host computer anyway, because it is impossible to protect yourself from prompt injections and from an incredible amount of security vulnerabilities in the vibecoded plugins.
Security is fundamentally unachievable in popular coding harnesses.
The only right way to use it is in an isolated environment.
From my limited testing, oc2.0 doesn't support sock5 proxy in HTTPS_PROXY, while v1 supports.
It's a big improvement over the previous version. Currently, the Codex TUI has constant display issues for me, the most prevalent being random deviations of light/dark characters. So far no such issue in OpenCode. Since it's model agnostic, this might become my daily driver.
mmh what is going on?
anyone knows?
source:virustotal
https://opencode.ai/update/api/latest/desktop/opencode/openc...
application/x-apple-diskimage Last Analysis Date 3 days ago Summary Detection --- SOCRadar Malicious --- ZeroCERT Malicious ---- Gridinsoft Suspicious --- ??
Performance is horrible both of the website and of the tool itself.
That's why I first switched to Pi and then to DeepSeek harness.
Is the tool performance you mentioned for v1? Or is v2 of the tool also performing badly?
I enjoy this program, and 2.0 is a great improvement.
Huh. I submitted this exact thing four days ago. I wonder why it didn't get marked as a duplicate?
From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
> If a story has not had significant attention in the last year or so, a small number of reposts is ok. Otherwise we bury reposts as duplicates.
In my experience, if a story gets 4-5 points and < 5 comments, it hasn't gotten "significant attention" and a repost gets a second chance. That's not data, just anecdote.
Essentially, all I get from opencode is "Error: opencode-ai's postinstall script was not run."
No matter how many times I run the postinstall script, it still comes up in a few hours or days. On various Linuxes and on macOS.
9 months ago I had opencode fill my 2tb storage with temp files and if I delete it’d redo it on session start. From that time onwards I have not gotten around to building my own verification pipeline to convince me that opencode won’t do it again. I guess I wanted to highlight that verification is what would sell me on opencode again.
- Miserable startup times are now "solved" by leaving it always running.
- Someone in this thread said the curl installer was slow because the install script needed cute progress bar rendering. To be clear, I don't care about the installer user experience, but I want to spend a moment on this point, because having used OpenCode for over a year, I think this perfectly sums up the entire experience. A commit born from "Claude, please make the installer look sick as fuck with loading bars and stuff" will always be preferred by the developers over a commit that reverts such a change for a 10 MB drop in memory use.
- Tried to read the unreadable announcement website after waiting for the little ThreeJS demo to load. I gave up.
- Logs from various old sessions leaked up to 16GB on some temp folder on my drive. The harness prompts are still token heavy. I know neither of these are real issues, and chat logs are a useful feature for many, but I felt validated to see someone else in the comments also complaining about the silent storage of chat sessions leaking into my drive in a random folder being the default behaviour.
IMO, this release goes far beyond OpenCode. I had always imagined that the advent of LLMs developing human-level coding abilities, combined with the high hardware prices as a result of it, would act as a forcing function to inspire a new generation of ultra-performant, bloat-free open software.
But this release is proving me wrong in every way.
We are entering a new era, what George Hotz coined "maximalist software": A new dawn of computing, where one one hand, we can simply prompt a superintelligent LLM to "please prove the Riemann hypothesis", and it will actually work. On the other hand, the chat log for the proof disappeared, because because the 2 GB Bun server (yes, the one meant to interact with a plaintext LLM API) just crashed.
> A commit born from "Claude, please make the installer look sick as fuck with loading bars and stuff" will always be preferred by the developers over a commit that reverts such a change for a 10 MB drop in memory use.
Not my experience. YMMV
> I had always imagined that the advent of LLMs developing human-level coding abilities, combined with the high hardware prices as a result of it, would act as a forcing function to inspire a new generation of ultra-performant, bloat-free open software.
I mean, faster and better hardware has never resulted in more efficient software, I really didn’t expect it to be any different here.
Never got used to opencode honestly, there is always this clunky feeling (same with pi but at least i can customize it more than anything.) and this feeling didn't go away with 2.0 either :/
The background task / subagent feature and the ability to specify a model when starting a subagent are so far my favorite improvements. Small things but make huge QoL difference in everyday development.
I had no clue you have to scroll down.
haven't upgraded yet to 2.0 but wanted to comment and just say thanks to the opencode/anomaly team for the generous (no-login) free tier.
you install the software and it just works, no login no nothing.
This game is quite interestingly fun despite how basic it is.
Judging by comments opencode seems popular. Why is it not in the top ranking coding agents on openrouter? HN's darling Pi is there, along with few others which I never heard about, but not opencode.
Maybe because of their rich provider ecosystem allowing you to use a whole bunch of subscriptions in it. I use OpenCode Go and OpenAI for almost everything, almost never touching OpenRouter.
I find it odd that opencode is not even in the top 50 of coding apps on openrouter. I wonder if it's just .. somehow not counting or missing?
I use OpenChamber as my IDE. It uses OpenCode behind the scenes. I've not really noticed a difference in OpenCode v1 vs v2 but I guess it's because OpenChamber does a great job dealing with those details.
The site is barely useable/slow/hangs on my crapola Moto G Play 2024.
I had to update because the previous OpenCode 2.0.3 I had installed stopped working suddenly. I love the idea behind OpenCode but compared to managing Claude and Codex, it's such a pain and requires continuous debugging or managing.
Stopped using Open Code because it's too buggy and can't even rename the project. Sharing this because I wanted to use it.
What do you mean by it can't rename the project? Which project? OpenCode?
OpenCode is a vibecoded vibecoding tool. From that kind of software you really shouldn't expect things like renaming of a project to work all the time.
I mean this neutrally: quality is not something that these projects strive for. Other values are a priority: features, speed of development, etc.
What would you recommend instead?
Is there azure login capability, for az login?
We are 100+ devs and claude code has this built in by default where we can host our own models in Azure Foundry. Devs don't need any keys since they can just use az login and it just works.
Yes. Their docs have a providers page. I was able to set it up pretty easily
Can someone tell me what am I missing if I just use the Claude extension via vscode instead of opencode? I use codex as well but only as mcp for reviews
I was finally forced to go CLI from the VSCode extension because its treatment of sub-agents is abysmal.
The site took a minute to load in completely and when I scrolled to the bottom I couldn't read the SDK text, it was literally cut off, kinda resembling the current state of coding very accurately lmao
tried opencode for the first time to use the $200 in api credits that come with claude max but can't be used in claude code. it's great. the free nemotron 3 model is even decent, i love seeing agentic coding accessible to students and hobbiests and folks that can't drop $200/mo.
i used the bonus anthropic credits to get ornith 1.5 35b q8 running on a jetson. it's no opus 5, but it's usable for real coding and sys admin work, and works great in opencode. at least as good as sonnet 4. 5 token/sec is a little painful though.
If workspaces had a way of managing separate Go subscriptions for team members, a large chunk of my org would jump in. DS and GLM are solid for a lot of tasks.
they deprecated the old layout which I very much preferred in open code desktop. I'm never in a rush so I'll wait for the early adopters to vouch for this release.
their client server model is a fantastic idea and the core reason i started building https://wingman.actor a year ago.
unfortunately making a great harness is tricky and i often just steal with things i like from ocv2 and pi.
been using ocv2 as my daily driver for a while and had very little complaints. its a great product from a great team.
> their client server model is a fantastic idea
It's not. A permanently running buggy() server on your computer instead of a screen or tmux session is not something that should be a default solution.
I mean it neutrally. Software quality is not a value in code harnesses. Something else is a value: speed of development, features, etc. But quality is ignored.
Does it still have rediculous system prompt alignment preventing use on red teams?
nice animation. but can you convince me to switch from Codex?
Is still forbidden to use Claude Code accounts with other harnesses? I will try with DeepSeek later, but it would be better if I could use Claude subsidized as well
I'm a Vim user and I actually like the web interface of AI better than the TUIs, which is weird perhaps.
Did anyone find out what numbers trigger something on that counter box on the left?
what happened to crush(charmbracelet/crush), it was being told as opencode successor?
Is it still super bloated?
Goes to check the repo out
> TypeScript
Considering the whole thing is LLM produced I would like an explicit answer as to why C++ or Rust weren't used to write the project in.
Same OpenCode team who ignore bug reports, don't respond on their discord, don't have modern CI/CD test suites (often shipping regressions), don't have bots to triage bug reports or PRs, and have what might be the worst open model subscription service available today.
OpenCode users: switching to Pi takes about 5 minutes, and customizing it to work just like OpenCode takes another 30 minutes. Better design, better devs, better community.
> We've built a minimal JavaScript interpreter
Huh?
how do you beat the game? What does the little box on the left do?
So about this point-and-click game: Am I supposed to carry this floppy disk 2408 times between those PCs? Or I missed some obvious detail?
What in the hell is wrong with this page? Whole blocks of content disappear and reappear on my phone as I scroll. Eventually the page just starts force reloading. It’s a blog post! What could possibly require … whatever this is?
There's this amazing three letter harness that had all those features and more for many, many months already, but many aren't ready for that conversation
It looks like they finally fixed the issue where the system prompt at the start of the transcript was regenerated from scratch every request, leading to significantly higher input costs. Unfortunately it's still rewritten whenever you revert to an earlier point in the conversation, but at least it's not on every single request.
ah man, I wanted this domain but I'm pleased to see it's at least being put to use instead of squatted
I basically only have eyes for Claude code. Sell me on this?
having a daemon PID helps for web gui, but may bite in unexpected ways under extensive parallization.
What the heck is this website, it completely locks up the tab it's in for 15 seconds and none of the text shows up at all until it finishes.
I guess I"m the only person with complaints here.
I tried opencode 2 with my locally hosted llama, and I noticed that llama is always producing stuff even when I close opencode. I suspect it's the backend still doing stuff with the frontend isn't displaying, but I have no way of investigating. So I'm sticking with 1.9 for now.
2.0 is a big disappointment so far.
Several basic things don't work, like hiding the sidebar.
With 3.2k open GitHub issues there's no point reporting anything.
It works, but the CPU utilisation is huge even if it's idle, and after it allocated 40 gb of RAM on my laptop once, I've stopped using it.
Everyone copies https//maki.sh. I've been the first!
I've been getting good results from OpenCode. Has anyone been able to get it to work with local models though? It doesn't seem to want to play nice with Ollama.
I was annoyed that it takes just as much ram if not more than 1.0
OC is all right -- it's my daily driver -- but it could be better. I'd like a harness to let me customize the GUI, not just add MCPs and plugins. For example, I'd like add buttons to merge a PR, and show indicators for CI. Claude Code does a lot of this out of the box. Give me UI building blocks (buttons, labels, etc.) and wire them with my own functions. Could Code Mode enable this?
The built-in browser is a most welcome feature.
PS(A): Opencode Go is a great deal and now has a $40 plan.
pi-mono is better
These guys stole money from me. It amounts to like 10 US or something, so not significant, but still...
Their models have pricing published in their docs, like any other LLM provider. I measured the tokens I consumed, did the math, and it was always off, in their favor. One model (GPT Luna) was about 2x as expensive as advertised.
I joined their Discord, which is apparently how you get support from them. I filed a bug and someone from their team replied, we verified the data, and he said that something was indeed off and that he'd escalate it. Then silence. After 2–3 weeks, I followed up and was now ignored.
As I said, the amount isn't material to me, but if they do this a million times, they could make some decent money out of it. No idea if it's on purpose, I'll leave that to the reader to speculate.
Overall, their complete lack of interest after acknowledging the "bug" left a really bad taste in my mouth, so I decided to leave.
Bros - that opening disk transfer interaction is peak awesomeness. I copied about 4 files and did not want to stop...Id sit there all day and do all of them just to see what happens in the end...perhaps later this weekend.
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I really hope we don't get a slew of WebGL-intensive sites.
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I would expected that they also rewrite it in Rust, but that's life, what a missed opportunity! /s
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